I was reading a recent thread in which there is a great deal of bickering between two forum members, both of whom have been around for some time and both of whom are in my opinion significant contributors to the forum even if I don't always agree with them (and even if they don't agree with one another on much of anything). Their names are unimportant for now but I'm sure it's no mystery whom I refer to. The nastiness of the exchange underscores the general decline of the forum lately (at least in my opinion), and while the following may not constitute a solution I would at least ask that each of us consider what made VLJ appealing in the first place. Was it a desire to antagonize people halfway across the country (or world), or was it to discuss topics in which we all share a common interest? For me it was and continues to be the latter. Is it really so hard to refrain from personal attacks on the forum?